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1 :08/10/05 〜 最終レス :11/10/20
柔道最高JUDOって言ってる人は、
BASEBALLに対抗するために野球を頑張った
王ジャパンも野球BASEBALL最高と思ってるの?
だとしたら主張が一貫してるからいいんだけど、
「日本に不利なのがむかつくだけ」ならただのおばかさぁんじゃん
アメリカのBASEBALLに勝つために野球を進化させた日本と
日本の柔道に勝つためにJUDOを進化させた欧州と何か違うの?
日本が不利になるのが許せないってそれなんて自分勝手?
おまえらが馬鹿にしてるチョンと何が違うの?死ぬの?

2 :
JUDO最高柔道って言ってる人は、
BASEBALLに対抗するために野球を頑張った
星野ジャパンも野球も最高BASEBALL最低と思ってるの?
だとしたら主張が一貫してるからいいんだけど、
「世界標準になるなら日本が不利でも仕方なし」ならただのおばかさぁんじゃん
アメリカのBASEBALLに滅多打ちされてる日本の野球と
日本の柔道に勝つためにJUDOを進化させた欧州と何か違うの?
日本が不利になるのが仕様ってそれなんて売国奴?
おまえらが馬鹿にしてるチョンと何が違うの?死ぬの?

3 :
星野ジャパンの場合は、
「国際ルールへの対策を怠った星野」への批判であって、
「日本に不慣れな国際ルール」への批判ではありません。改変不足

4 :
王ジャパンの場合は、
「国際ルールに通用する野球の強さを証明した王」への称賛であって、
「国際ルールに迎合した日本」への称賛ではありません。勉強不足

5 :
>>4
では日本柔道の場合は?

6 :
>>5
では日本柔道の場合は?

7 :
「強い日本の柔道に勝つために」欧州勢はJUDOを進化させた
それを卑怯だとか汚いとかおまえら何考えてるの?馬鹿なの?
今度は日本がJUDOに勝つために柔道を進化させる番でしょ?
それを怠って頑張った欧州勢に文句を言うって何なの?死ぬの?

8 :
ねえ死ぬの?

9 :
単純につまんねぇからだJUDO
ヨーロッパでも判定試合が視聴率低下に繋がっている
国際柔道連盟も対策を立ててるところだ

10 :
JUDOは単に柔道の英訳だよ。
勝手に変な意味合いをつけるなよ。

11 :
>>10
e‐柔道の掲示板なんかじゃ、変な意味合いに捉えている人たちばっかりだけどね…
 

12 :
馬鹿なの?

13 :
ねえ死ぬの?

14 :
何なの?

15 :
柔道って、何なの?
格闘技界への、登竜門なの? 喧嘩が強いのが偉いって、高校生ぐらいまでだろ〜?
誰か、石井ちゃんしてください!

16 :
>>15
通報しました

17 :
JUDO

18 :

19 :
やっちまったな

20 :
>>17
可能です。
以上。
はい、次。

21 :
儒道

22 :
I reckon the new rules make it harder for the countrys that are better wrestlers....
means judokas have to be judokas to succeed

23 :
France's 21-year-old judo phenomenon Teddy Riner is busy rewriting his sport's record books and
aiming this week to become the first man to win five world titles.
Already a three-times world champion, the massive Frenchman, who stands 208 cm tall and weighs
a hefty 128kg, could claim two more titles at the Sept. 9-13 world championships in Tokyo.
The gentle colossus from the French Caribbean island of Guadeloupe will compete on Thursday in
the over 100 kg category and on Monday, he will try his luck in the "open" division, which is for
athletes from any weight class.
Only four men have won four titles, Japan's Naoya Ogawa, Shozo Fujii and Yasuhiro Yamashita and
Frenchman David Douillet.
"My first goal is to win a new title in the over 100 kg category, which will allow me to emulate four
prestigious athletes," Riner told Reuters in an interview.
"My second goal is to win a second title, in the open division, which would make me the first man
with five world titles. To make that challenge come real in the land of (judo founder) Jigoro Kano,
our master, would be an honour."
Kano, who created this martial art in 1882 and whose photograph adorns every judo hall in France,
where the sport is extremely popular, is dear to Riner's heart.
"He's our spiritual father, our guide, he inspires us and gives us a boost," Riner said of Kano, whose
philosophy was based on respect and fairness.
Kano meant his sport, whose principle is to use the opponent's strength to defeat him rather than
sheer force, to be a peaceful discipline, as opposed to other martial arts whose original purpose
was to kill.
"Every day, I salute his picture," Riner said. "Sometimes, I talk to him and ask him for advice."
METEORIC RISE
A stylist as much as an athlete, Riner said his approach to judo owned plenty to the Japanese
masters.
"When I was a kid, I watched lots of fights from Japanese heavyweights and I was inspired by
them. I think my judo is pleasant to watch, clean, in the Japanese way. The rest is power, strength,
the Guadeloupe side of me."
The only blot on Rider's meteoric rise to the top of his sport came in 2008 at the Beijing Olympics.
The favourite to win gold, he had to be content with the bronze medal.
"Since that day I understood that I absolutely needed to give it my very best and should not leave
anything to chance, so I worked very hard to tighten a few bolts here and there, to make sure I would
not be caught off guard anymore," he said.
Already one of France's most popular personalities, the discreet but cheerful Riner said his rise was
far from over.
"My chance is that I take a lot of pleasure from continuing to grow and to assert my power. I'm the
world champion but I still respect everybody and I don't forget that anybody might beat me."
France's top all-time judoka, however, is not Riner but the now retired Douillet, for one simple reason.
"He was an Olympic champion in 1996 and 2000 and I'm not an Olympic champion," Riner said. "It
would be a lack of respect for me to compare myself to him."
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/06092010/2/judo-french-phenomenon-riner-eyes-record-feat.html

24 :
そうした中、1964年10月25日に兵庫県尼崎市で行われた同親善試合決勝トーナメントに
出場したヘーシンク氏は、当時の加藤雅晴四段と対戦し、「内股透かし」で技ありを取られた
という。その後、帯を取って寝技に持ち込む禁止技「引き込み返し」で加藤氏から寝技で
勝利したヘーシンク氏だったが、自身が技ありを取られた審判への不服として準決勝、決勝に
出場せずにそのまま帰ってしまい、その横暴さに会場は非難の声が飛び交ったそうだ。
http://www.saopauloshimbun.com/index.php/conteudo/show/id/1467/cat/105

25 :
JUDOの寝技の「マテ」が早すぎるよ。これじゃ小よく大を制すのJIU-JITSUの醍醐味を
発揮できんじゃねえか。あと「いきなりの諸手刈りの禁止」だとか、もうこんなのじゃ
まったくのパワー優先だしね、面白くないよ。

26 :
最近は以前よりマテが掛かるのは遅くなって審判も寝技の攻防を比較的見るようになったがね
直接足を掴むのは禁止になったとはいえ、返し技や連絡技からの掬い投げは今でも頻繁に
見かける ありきたりの光景だ
JUDO TVを見てれば最近の動向は一発で把握できる
やたら長ったらしいので、よほどのマニア以外ずっと見続けるというわけにもいかないけどな
かわりにYOUTUBEにあがってる試合を見まくれば、それはそれで傾向をつかめるだろう

27 :
Consider that judo has been alive in the United States for a very long time.
Will BJJ stay flourishing? Does BJJ have the model to successfully grow for
decade after decade? I hope so. I wish BJJ well. But, I don't wish for judo to
simply adopt BJJ's business model, and move along its merry way. Judo has
issues with identity, purpose, and practice, not with marketing and franchise
building. One thing judo must do is adapt; but, before it can do so, it has to
come to terms with what it is about, and how it is practiced. It is fracturing
over these ideas which are at the center of judo's woes; not how 'popular'
it is. Jimmy Pedro, Joshua Resnick, and many other forum posters are all
trying out their ideas and experiments. Their attempts will inform the next
generation of judoka's.
You must understand that judo is not just a sport, or a martial art, or a budo.
It is a culture, and in America it is a culture of cultures. You have many different
groups of people within judo, and many different ideas about what judo is about
and how it should be conducted. It is over these things which judo stagnates, not
how 'cool' it is, or how many dojos are on your block. And don't think of this is just
happening here. It is happening all over the world.
Judo is in the process of assessing itself. Unlike BJJ, judo is not free to expand
beyond the legacy of Kano. What judo will be like in the future, I cannot say, but
if it doesn't contain certain elements, it will not be judo. BJJ doesn't have that
restriction. In fact, you don't even have to call it BJJ. You can call it grappling,
you can call it freestyle, you can call it Mission Control, you can call it submission
wrestling, you can call it many things. But, you cannot call anything judo. Judo is
based on certain principles that are not meant to be changed. It is based on a certain
idea, an outlook. What we are in the process of doing is rediscovering, re-debating,
relearning what that is. This is nothing new. It's the history of judo. We will find a
way to make judo work in the 21st century. Perhaps it will be neo-ultra-traditional.
Perhaps we will be in spandex body suits. I have no idea. But whatever it has, it will
not be judo without seiryoku zenyo being the basis of physical practice, and jita kyoei
being the basis of conduct and personal growth. It will not be judo without rei. It will
not be judo without tachiwaza and newaza randori.

28 :
【台湾】ウサマ・ビンラディンは柔道黒帯だった!!【師匠激白】
http://kickassasia.com/2011/05/%E3%80%90%E5%8F%B0%E6%B9%BE%E3%80%91%E3%82%A6%E3%82%B5%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BB%E3%83%93%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%83%87%E3%82%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%81%AF%E6%9F%94%E9%81%93%E9%BB%92%E5%B8%AF%E3%81%A0%E3%81%A3%E3%81%9F/
Taiwanese judo coach surprised by bin Laden's terrorist transformation
http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/national/national-news/2011/05/07/301445/Taiwanese-judo.htm

29 :
それガセのようだ

30 :
http://www.xvideos.com/video116157/the_guts
本当の格闘技?

31 :
Judo, wresting students clash in Belgaum; 5 injured
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-06-23/hubli/29693991_1_hostel-warden-judo-toilets

32 :
Sheldon Franco-Rooks
Lance Wicks 
Saint & Grevsie
http://judo.dekorte.nl/
http://www.facebook.com/Judobund

33 :
judoratt
It is much easier to get results in womens judo than mens divisions.
It takes much less resorces to medal internationaly in womens than
men's divisions. Will this raise some eyebrows?
stacey
if you think that's true, change your and show us how easy it is.
judoratt
I was waiting for you to chime in. I belive it is nothing more than a number thing.
I belive that the judo population is probably 70% or more male world wide, so there
are almost 3 males to every female. If this is so I would say that the talent pool in
the male divisions are significantly deeper and take much more effort to get a athlete
to the top than the female divisions. Again this is just my opinion, my best athlete
results have been with Female athletes that have worked as hard as any males I have known.
As far as changes stacy you may want to change my at this point. But I would love
to discuss the issue and would never claim that I am always right.
stacey
arguably, the social and family pressures keeping women out of sports far outweigh those prompting
men to get in sport. So, for a woman to actually be in sport, let alone a contact sport such as judo,
means that only the most mentally fit actually make their way into judo. In other words, if you imagine
the pool of prospective judoka to be equal male to female, and then you add in social mores and pressures,
you are naturally going to have a lot more men in sport than women. Further, the women in judo will be far
tougher (emotionally at least, and probably physically since most of our male training partners are far bigger
than we tend to be) than their male counterparts. Men have to rise from the male judo playing population,
women have to rise first from the entire female population to embrace a way of life that's antithetical to
most of what we're taught women really should be. Just my opinion.

34 :11/10/20
何年間も持ち回りの似たようなスタッフでまとまった全日本首脳陣って一体なんなのよ?
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